Couples therapist sparks debate after revealing whether a man should split the bill on a date

Even after all these years, the debate over who should pick up the bill on a date is still alive and kicking.

At this rate, it seems like the human population will never be able to come to an agreement about which party the financial responsibility falls on.

One look at the comment section of Steven Bartlett’s latest video on his Diary of A CEO YouTube channel will tell you as much.

Fans of the businessman, 32, weren’t shy about sharing their opinions on a comment made by couples therapist Lori Gottlieb when she appeared on the show.

The psychotherapist and author joined the Dragons’ Den star on his podcast to talk all things relationships back in March of this year.

And as you can imagine, the topic of who should pick up the tab on a date ended up rearing its head.

Lori Gottlieb revealed who she thinks should pick up the bill on a date (YouTube/Diary of A CEO)

Lori Gottlieb revealed who she thinks should pick up the bill on a date (YouTube/Diary of A CEO)

Gottlieb explained that over the years, she has noticed a dramatic shift in a lot of her male patients, saying that a lot of them aren’t sure about ‘how to be a man in today’s world‘.

“It used to be much more clear,” the expert said. “I’m not saying that was a good thing, because there were all kinds of power dynamics that weren’t so healthy for men and women.

“But I think now what men are saying is, ‘Maybe I don’t want to be the person solely responsible…I would like my partner to also bring in some income’.”

Gottlieb reckons a lot of people think that paying on a date isn’t merely just reimbursing a restaurant for your grub anymore, but instead believe it has to ‘mean something’.

She told Bartlett: “I think a lot of people would say, ‘Oh well, it means that you expect something back from me – you expect we’re going to have sex or whatever’.

“It’s not so important that we know what it means, it’s more important that we know what it means to the person that we are interested in.

“It’s going to mean something different to everybody, so if we can’t talk to this person that we’re interested in about what it means, then both people are going to be mired in confusion.”

Bartlett confessed he doesn't tend to let his other half pay for things (YouTube/Diary of A CEO)

Bartlett confessed he doesn’t tend to let his other half pay for things (YouTube/Diary of A CEO)

Essentially, the couples therapist says that if you believe your decision about who gets the bill has some strings attached to it, you should discuss this at the dinner table.

Bartlett then confessed he was a hopeless romantic who ‘opens up every door and pays every bill’ for his other half, before enquiring about his guest’s dating history.

He asked Gottlieb whether a guy asking to split the bill on a first date would be a ‘turn off’ for her – and her response has ruffled quite a few feathers.

The Dear Therapist columnist said: “That would be a huge ick for me, yes.

“It’s hard to articulate because – and this is what women of all ages will say – I think we grew up with that as the expectation.

“I think for younger generations, maybe it’s not the expectation, but I think a lot of people still like it or want it.

“There’s something about it that that says, ‘I really valued our time together, I care, I’m interested’. It’s a way of signalling interest.

“But I think even if the person isn’t interested and you’re never going to see each other again, it’s just a nice gesture.”

Some viewers were supportive of her stance on the issue, with one saying it was the ‘bare minimum’ for a bloke to pay on the first date.

One wrote: “Great interview. I agree with Lori 100%!”

Another said: “I’m 38-years-old and I agree with Lori. If the guy does not pay on the first date for me, its over.”

But not everyone was in agreement with the psychotherapist, and just couldn’t believe people are still banging on about who pays on a first date.

One viewer commented: “The ‘paying the bill’ is cultural, I’m Dutch & my husband is German. In our culture the person who asked the other pays or the highest earner/person that can miss it most easily.

“Splitting is also common and an expected question, it just isn’t that big of a deal in our cultures.”

Another said: “The problem is we are making romantic relationships transactional instead of focusing on creating true friendship.”

While a third chimed in: “I’m a woman and I would never take advice from a therapist who believes that men should pay for the privilege of dating a woman. Brutal take.”

Gottlieb went onto say she realises it is ‘very expensive’ to date these days, but believes a lot of women want and expect men to take the hit.

What do you reckon?

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Topics: Sex and RelationshipsMoneyDating trendsYouTube

Woman sparks debate after revealing the four word text that put her off a date

Woman sparks debate after revealing the four word text that put her off a date

The woman was unsure whether to cancel the date

Lucy Devine

Lucy Devine

A woman has sparked debate online after revealing the four word message that put her off going on a first date.

The woman explained that after she made a profile on a dating app, she started chatting to a man who asked her out for food.

While she was initially enthusiastic about meeting up, she shared a second message the man sent which has completely put her off.

The woman asked Mumsnet for advice (Getty Stock Photo)

The woman asked Mumsnet for advice (Getty Stock Photo)

Taking to Mumsnet, the woman asked if she should still go ahead with the date as planned, or if she should run a mile.

But people were pretty divided with their views.

While some agreed it would be an instant turn off, others said they thought she should at least give the date a chance.

“I made a profile on an app and some guy’s asked me out for a bite to eat. I said yes, and we’ve agreed to meet this weekend,” the woman explained in her post.

The woman was unsure about a walk around the town centre (Getty Stock Photo)

The woman was unsure about a walk around the town centre (Getty Stock Photo)

“Now he’s said shall we have a short walk first before the food to ‘see how we feel’?

“That’s obviously code for, I’ll see if I fancy you and if not I don’t have to eat with you. It wasn’t a fancy sit down meal, just a quick bite to eat like.

“Should I still go ahead? I don’t know why, this has put me off slightly.

“It was only some waffle place, I wouldn’t go for a formal meal for a first date either. Should I still go?”

Explaining he wanted to walk around the city, she added: “I just don’t want to feel like I’m being assessed so much.

“A waffle/crepe whatever is hardly a court summons, it’s barely more than a coffee. If I’m that grotesque surely he can finish it quickly and go?”

Some thought going for food would be awkward (Getty Stock Photo)

Some thought going for food would be awkward (Getty Stock Photo)

People were pretty divided, but many agreed it didn’t make sense to walk aimlessly through a town centre.

“I would never ever go for a walk as a date unless it was someone who was into hiking. Walking down the road with someone is not a date,” one person wrote.

And another said: “I could understand him not wanting to do a whole formal meal type of thing but a waffle!

“At least with a waffle, once you’ve finished you can leave if you don’t like him.

“What do you do on an aimless walk? Keep walking awkwardly with no end in site. That’s a no for me.”

Others thought the woman was being too harsh, however.

One added: “I think you’re being a bit sensitive – it makes sense to suss the other person out before committing to a meal.

“Doesn’t necessarily mean fancying, but what if their vibes are just totally off? Gives you a chance to suss him out too.”

And another said: “No way would I have food on a first date. Eating in front of someone you don’t know is just cringe. Have a short walk and grab a coffee.”

What do you think?

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Topics: Sex and RelationshipsDating trends

Woman sparks fierce debate after revealing dating tip when being asked to split the bill

Woman sparks fierce debate after revealing dating tip when being asked to split the bill

The content creator provided women with advice on what to say if they’re asked to split the bill on the first date

Joshua Nair

Joshua Nair

A content creator has started a massive debate online after giving advice to women about what to do on the first date if they’re asked to split the bill.

Dating in the 2020s is a controversial topic amid all the trends that people have been made aware of through social media, and ideologies around seeing someone that seem to change depending on who you ask.

Things like ‘throning’ and ‘micro-cheating’ are aspects that most have to look out when finding a partner nowadays, it’s arguably harder than it’s ever been to find someone and settle down.

Paying the bill on the first date is a hot topic among single people (Getty Stock Photo)

Paying the bill on the first date is a hot topic among single people (Getty Stock Photo)

With that being said, it’s perfectly natural for people to get severely criticised when sharing opinions on relationships.

This is what TikTok user Pearl Botts has experienced after making a viral clip about what to expect on a first date when the bill comes.

The clip has over 11.4 million views on the social media platform, as Botts told women to respond in one simple way if they’re asked by the man to go 50/50 on the bill, on their first date.

“When a man wants to go fifty fifty with you on a date do this,” she explained, before acting the date out on camera.

Botts started with her hands over her mouth, saying: “Oh my God, I’m so embarrassed right now. Um, wait you wanted to just be friends?

“I’m so confused, this whole entire time, I thought this was a date.

“Oh my God okay, I’m so sorry, here’s my card,” she said.

With a smirk, she ends the short clip, which also has over one and a half million likes.

As you can imagine, the comments were flooded with several differing opinions, as users couldn’t seem to agree on whether the controversial take was right or not.

Do you think men should pay on the first date? (TikTok/pearlbotts)

Do you think men should pay on the first date? (TikTok/pearlbotts)

Some users thought that asking to split the bill isn’t the worst thing in the world, as one commented: “Girl 50/50 is so reasonable for a first date,” while another stated: “If it’s a first date I see no problem with splitting the bill.”

A third wrote: “I personally don’t see the big deal of paying 50/50 on the first date? Did it with my man 7 year ago and appreciated it.”

However, others thought she was bang on the money, as another user got over 115k likes on a comments where they suggested you say: “’We could’ve gone somewhere more in budget for you!!’”

Someone else added: “Idk what goes on these days. I haven’t dated in a while. If I ask a girl out, I’m picking her up, paying, and being a gentleman.”

A sixth pointed out: “Some of yall are missing the point. It’s not about the money. It’s about setting the expectation that if he wants to date you he will have to invest.”

What do you think?

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Topics: TikTokViralSocial MediaSex and RelationshipsDating trendsFirst Dates

'Sledging' is the dangerous new winter dating trend that people should now be very concerned about

‘Sledging’ is the dangerous new winter dating trend that people should now be very concerned about

There’s a new winter dating trend that you should be wary of as cuffing season approaches

Joshua Nair

Joshua Nair

There’s a brand-new dating trend to look out for this winter, and you’ll want to keep your guard up.

As we all know, cuffing season is well and truly in swing, as people are on the hunt for relationships ahead of the Christmas and New Year’s period.

But be warned! Not everyone is looking for a pure, wholesome relationship – short-term flings that go as spring comes around can be common for singletons, but how can you sniff these out before getting hurt?

Well, get ready to add a new dating trend word to your vocabulary.

Christmas might be a time associated with love, but this trend is not (Getty Stock Photo)

Christmas might be a time associated with love, but this trend is not (Getty Stock Photo)

It’s called sledging, fitting as it comes as the temperature begins to drop, though it has nothing to do with the fun childhood activity you did with your parents down a hill.

There’s no happiness or joy associated with this trend, unfortunately, though sledging in 2024 will leave you feeling like you were shoved down a steep slope.

As the colder months approach, a lot of Gen Zers, like generations before them, will be looking not to be single, and will want to be with someone over the winter period, even if they don’t necessarily have feelings for them.

It doesn’t end there though, it’s not just for single people – those of you in relationships should keep an eye out too, to avoid feeling as dark and gloomy as the weather.

The odd trend can claim those who think that they may be in happy relationships, but instead, the other person is purposely ‘dragging them along’ to get through the winter months, despite losing interest.

This is all done with the intention to split up come the spring, when ‘cuffing season’ is over.

You could be the subject of sledging without even knowing it (Getty Stock Photo)

You could be the subject of sledging without even knowing it (Getty Stock Photo)

In fact, dating app Happn have revealed through new research that 15 percent of single 18-25-year-olds kept dating the same person over the festive period despite not feeling anything for them, in what might be one of the most toxic dating trends yet.

They further discovered that 15 percent of Gen Z daters wanted to end things with their significant others, but waited until Christmas and New Year passed to call it quits.

The worrying part is that people want to end the relationship in November, but stay with the person as the pressures of being with someone over the festive period starts to kick in.

In fact, 75 percent of people surveyed made the choice to break up in November, but waited until the New Year to break it off.

Sledgers, am I right?

Shockingly though, some sledgers, 25 percent to be exact, dragged their relationship on from August until after Christmas to call it quits.

You'll want to avoid getting sledged this winter (Getty Stock Photo)

You’ll want to avoid getting sledged this winter (Getty Stock Photo)

So, how do you avoid being on the wrong end of this horrid trend?

Happn’s dating expert Claire Rénier has revealed what signs to look out for, via Daily Star.

She explained: “Gen Z should look out for signs that they’re being ‘sledged’ to avoid their partner staying with them just through the winter, with intention to break up soon after.

“This can be toxic and a red flag,” Rénier highlighted.

“People shouldn’t be treated this way in what should be a loving and trusting relationship. It plays with people’s emotions and fosters short-term satisfaction.

“Instead, young people should find more authentic connections with people with shared locations and hobbies,” the expert went on.

”This way they can find partners that are genuinely interested in them and sustain a relationship to last beyond just the winter!”

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Topics: CommunityDating trendsSex and Relationships

Bloke sparks fierce debate after asking first date to split bill with him

Bloke sparks fierce debate after asking first date to split bill with him

If you ask someone out, should you pay the bill?

Lucy Devine

Lucy Devine

If you ask for the date, should you pick up the cheque?

The question of who should split the bill is often a tricky one.

On one hand, some say the person who did the asking should at least offer to pay. But, considering it’s *very* early days, is it fair to split it?

Well, TikTok has had its say after one man shared a video of his date getting pretty riled up after he asked her to go halves.

You can watch the moment below…

In the clip, the TikToker – aka @thewaterboy – can be seen covertly recording the argument, as the woman slams her credit card into the folder and asks: “Why are we splitting the bill?”

Trying to offer an explanation, the TikToker waffles on about it being their first date, and even tries to justify it by pointing out that she ordered an appetiser, which he ‘didn’t touch’.

“It’s our first date so I thought maybe we should go halves?” he says.

In the car home, the woman is still peeved.

“I can’t believe you made us split the bill… you asked me out… you asked me out,” she added.

Again, he tries to explain: “I know, but you ordered something that I didn’t want.”

So awkward.

The man was shocked that his date was annoyed.

TikTok/@thewaterboy

In the caption, @thewaterboy added: “I don’t even know her and she wanted to split the bill??? After SHE ordered an appetizer that i didn’t want!!

“THIS is what it’s like dating in MIAMI smh. I gotta move somewhere else, these girls are ENTITLED.”

People went in pretty hard on the issue, with almost everyone criticising the guy for his behaviour.

One wrote: “I’m with her. You asked for the date… you pay!”

While another said: “If you can’t afford to date then don’t! You split the bill with friends or with people that you have no intention of courting.”

And a third added: “Date? Nah you’re a friend if we split the bill. lol.”

“I’ll offer to split the bill to seem polite, but he should pay. There would be no second date. This guy is ridiculous,” added a fourth.

People criticised the man for his dating etiquette.

TikTok/@thewaterboy

The guy got pretty rinsed in the comments section, with hundreds telling him he should have paid.

Some women said they always offer to pay (but never really expect to), while the occasional few were more sympathetic to the guy’s point of view.

One wrote: “My girl always splits the bill with me.”

We get the feeling this response was not what he was expecting.

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